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TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS _ You'll notice that the last Wolves-Celtics rumor has already morphed into the Wolves-Suns rumor, then the Wolves-Suns-Celtics-Pacers rumor and now the Wolves-Suns-Celtics rumor, in which people with way too much time get out a calculator and decide to make deals for teams, whether those teams' general managers are interested in those deals or not. It's also about the whispers that Wolves office personnel hear in the halls, which sometimes is good info, sometimes complete nonsense. I've heard my fair share of rumors from office personnel, and they're right about 10 percent of the time.

The biggest problem here, with those who believe a projected and possibly fictitious Celtics deal is too good to pass up, is that it assumes the deal is available, and it assums that it is the best deal obtainable.

As long as Kevin McHale is in charge, I'll never trust that assumption. And that's why I'm not as ready to be as giddy about this deal as many others (who, by the way, were almost as giddy with the last Celtics deal, but refuse to acknowledge as much now).

Yes, we all know many teams are out of the mix because of salary cap issues and contracts _ this does not exactly qualify as rocket science _ but creative GMs find ways to involve a third team, and draft choices, and future considerations, etc. The other fear, last expressed on air when the Wolves dealt with the Celtics the last time, is the inherent danger in acquiring players, even promising ones, from bad teams. Or, to put it another way, when one bad GM deals with another bad GM. It's an important cautionary tale _ don't say some of us didn't warn you when the last Celtics deal went down _ which doesn't mean you never deal with that bad team twice, but should make anyone think long and hard before dealing off your only real asset. You only get the chance to do that once, if you are going to do it at all.

 

Published Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:17 PM by KFAN Dan Barreiro

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tlang1982 said:

I wish everyone had your constant negative point of view.  Multiple ESPN writers have reported on the possibility of a trade to the Celtics or Suns, but I guess that's not enough for you.  And if we waited for a "good" GM to send us a good trade then we'll never get a deal.  Who qualifies as a good GM?  

This is one of my biggest beefs with you.  You love to complain your entire time you talk Wolves but never bring up a positive idea yourself, but that would take some homework on your part.  I'd hate for you to be an informed talking head.

I know you're praying the Twolves Front Office does nothing so when KG walks away to sign with a contender next summer, you can be negative again and collect your check.  All you want to do is be negative about the team and it's future.  The entire trade KG debate comes down to two things:  Do you want to hang out to the past (KG, bad trades, bad drafts, McFail) or do you want to start over and build for the future?

I guess in your case it pays to live in the past.

tlang1982
June 20, 2007 1:58 PM
 

Shawn Bradley Guy said:

A couple of things that don't get brought up while discussing a possible KG trade. We are able to be more flexible with the cap room...however, the Timberwolves have never signed a premier free agent while this franchise has existed. Joe Smith's contract was illegal...Chauncey was still trying to find his niche at the time...other than that Timberwolves have a sorry history of luring top free agents here. Everybody wants to blow it up, but there isn't a solution in sight rather than hoping we hit the jackpot on our draft picks (which we also suck at)...which we could do regardless of whether we trade Garnett or not.
June 20, 2007 2:03 PM
 

MNSportsFanatic said:

I bet when all is said and done, KG will be with the Wolves and everyone would have wasted their time talking about trade rumors. Normally, trades happen when no one knows about it. When has a trade that has been rumored actually been materialized?

I just think Taylor and McHale are too dumb to make a basketball trade featuring a valuable asset.
June 20, 2007 2:55 PM
 

OchoCinco said:

I remember when there was a rumor that Shaq was going to be traded....and then he was.

I remember when Webber was rumored to want to be moved out of Philly....and it materialized

I remember when AI was rumored to not want to "practice" in Philly anymore....that happened too.  



Any questions MNSportsdouche, sometimes Rick Bucher gets it right.
June 20, 2007 3:27 PM
 

StormJH1 said:

As much as it makes sense for KG to be traded this year (rather than see him opt out and leave for nothing), and as strong as the rumors are this time of year (much like every season since '04), I'm inclined to agree with Dan here.

I was downtown a couple of weeks ago, and I happened to wander into the skyway level of 600 1st Avenue.  And the T-Wolves have these walls and glass-case displays of their history as a franchise.  Kevin Garnett is represented in probably 80% of those photographs.  And you realize that the T-Wolves have no other history except for KG, and probably wouldn't be in Minnesota right now if not for him.  

I'm not suggesting that those are reasons not to trade him--I believe that they should get whatever they can for him, and blow this thing up.  But if you're McHale, and your ONLY claim to success as a general manager is drafting this one player (and some stupid article in Forbes), are you really looking forward to the day where you cut your one and only meal ticket free?  
June 20, 2007 3:45 PM
 

Raindog said:

Barreiro is more concerned with stirring the pot than reporting anything that is true, much less positive, about a franchise that he HATES.

Why does he hate the Wolves?

Unlike his REPUBLICAN buddies Vince Flynn & Norm Colman, McHale has never kissed his keister.

Plain and simple. Butter up Barreiro, Get a FREE PASS and all the Positive Pub you want.

He's no different than Sid. Just Balder and surprisingly (or not) even more BITTER.
June 20, 2007 4:18 PM
 

Coach Garion said:

Just because someone has an opinion, he hates them? I don't know why I bothered to read the comments..Disagree with him all  you want, but he simply is basing his opinion on Mchale's track record with improving this team. Except for one season, and drafting KG he has done nothing for this franchise.
June 20, 2007 4:22 PM
 

TheDoctor said:

Dan I'm with you on all the hype, but even as you said during your show today, there is nothing else to discuss about the Wolves.

Let's remember that while we are supposed to be concerned about trading with a bad team, aren't we also a bad team?  We have as much garbage as anyone in the league to unload.

As I've posted hear before, I'm not that big a Garnett fan.  I'd be very happy to move him for some younger players and to hopefully clean up some of the #1s we owe.  I get that McHale has a bad record with draft choices, but what else do we cling to?

Side note for the rubes posting personal attacks on Dan.  Feel free to take a shot at his arguments, but let's leave the physical appearance and related crap out of here.  Almost feels like someone forgot to lock the door at rube chat.
June 20, 2007 4:50 PM
 

tlang1982 said:

I realized why Barreiro refused to give his own opinion but instead belittle everyone else's.  If he never gives an opinion on how to solve a problem then he can't be criticized.  He must just have thin skin and can't take it.  That's fine some people are just hot bags with no cojones to put their solutions out there.
June 20, 2007 6:58 PM
 

NAC_11 said:

I beg to differ - Dan did give his opinion.  It's just that it was DEAD-WRONG.  Remember that little Maturi-can't-hire-anyone blog-o-thon that we were bombarded with day-in day-out?  Please tell me rubes remember that....  Notice there hasn't been any blogs regarding your MN Gopher squad(s) since.  
You can't stir the pot with results

P.S. Tomorrow's blog will be how we should count the Twins out for the year
June 20, 2007 7:24 PM
 

Zebra-man said:

I get more kicks out of reading these responses!  tlang, If you're so fed-up with Barreiro's negativity, then why do you continue to read his articles? I believe you're only ticked-off because Barreiro is printing fact that YOUR team's management continues to botch deals, getting kicked in the rear both on and off the Court!

You ask Barreiro for solutions? Why aren't you asking the same from T-Wolve management? They bought one significant playoff run on the aged legs and backs of Latrell Sprewell and Sam Cassell. This team has failed in its ability to draft and develop their young talent. McHale has had a free pass since Taylor botched the Joe Smith situation.  

However, think about the talent this team had on its roster that McHale let go (for nothing)-- Chauncey Billups, Bobby Jackson, FLIP SAUNDERS... Yet, overspending to bring in (or retian) the likes off ... Jaric, James, Hassell..

Try finding positivity anywhere!

Just be happy that anyone still cares!
June 21, 2007 9:06 AM
 

Lew Fords PS2 said:

Wolves talk was boring enough DURING the basketball season...I seriously would rather break down the College World Series than continue these retread Wolves takes in the middle of summer...
June 21, 2007 9:36 AM
 

BadgerBoy1 said:

Give Dan a break.  He has countless of times on his show offered up suggestions that would improve this franchise.  You guys bashing him have some of the most selective hearing I have ever seen.  The bottom line is McHale is just a terrible GM and Dan is right, when you have 2 terrible GM's dealing with each other, nothing positive is going to come from it.
June 21, 2007 9:54 AM
 

BIgDaddy said:

It is obvious to any rational person that the woffies need to trade KG for young talent.  

This means they won't.  The reason they won't, because everyone else knows they're desperate to do it.  So the offers won't be good enough (in the owner's mind).  No WAY the Celtics are offering what is rumored.  No way, no how.

Here's some negativity for you.  No picks and long deals for trash means fans will be waiting for T Hud and Marko to come off the books before this team is relevant again.  That's 4 - 5 years.

By that time . . .

-  KG will have retired with 1 or 2 championships with . . . LaBron?
-  Foye will not resign and will have moved on.
-  McCants will not resign and will have moved on if he's any good.

It'll be a complete reset and it may not be avoidable.

June 21, 2007 10:41 AM
 

Kandiman Guy said:

I'm not the KG guy I once was.  The rumored Celtics deal might interest me if Ainge and McHale were not so shamelessly incompetent and the garbage exchanges were comparable.   How comedic would it be if Garnett was reunited with his arch-enemy Wally Szczerbiak?

A non-negotiable stipulation of any potential trade should be the inclusion of T-Hud with Garnett.  If anyone's dumb enough to do it it's Ainge.  That's one positive aspect of dealing with a losing team and a lousy GM, you might be able to sucker them.  Of course, the flaw there is McHale is not nearly shrewd enough to take advantage of it, and may be just as vulnerable to being hosed as Ainge.  (if not more)  

They're the dumb and dumber of NBA general managers.

I hope there's no validity to Reusse's column about KG going to the Lakers for Bynum, Walton, a mid-round pick and the miserable Kwame Brown.  If Kwame bleeping Brown is part of any deal for Garnett it is time to board it up.

As a huge Wolves guy (one of the few that are left) I'm hanging my hat on the departure of the deplorable Mike James.  

I know it's sad, but such is the state of my beloved Wolves club.
June 21, 2007 11:36 AM
 

Ak_AK_ADAK said:

NAC & Lew-
You guys are right on...
I am soo tired of Wolves babble I've started tuning into the sister station on my way home... I mean its the same thing day in and day out with the Wolves.... McHale is terrible followed by about 10 cheap shots, trade KG, the team is garbage, blah blah blah... Your saying the samething everyday, just in different ways.
I love when you start out a Wolves rant you always say... "For the few Wolves fans left..." if there are so few Wolves fans left THEN WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THEM?!?!?!?!?!?!"

Get back to me when you have something interesting to say again...
June 21, 2007 11:41 AM
 

Ak_AK_ADAK said:

Dan-
I apologize, I forgot I can't hate the NBA anymore because 1(San Antonio Spurs) of the 32(or however many NBA teams there are) does things "the right way". According to the Season Ticket Add you arote for the Spurs.... I mean the blog you wrote a couple weeks ago....
Please talk more KG today, and take some cheap shots at McHale because I don't think I've heard all 9 million of them yet...
June 21, 2007 11:56 AM
 

GoToGuy said:

<i>It'll be a complete reset and it may not be avoidable. </i>

It won't be avoidable. Face it, fans: it's going to have to get much worse before it gets better.
June 21, 2007 1:52 PM
 

elzy said:

well said Zebra, well said
June 21, 2007 7:27 PM
 

Lute Olson Hater said:

KG... the desert awaits you! Nash and KG would be world champions next season... unlike KG and Howard... LOL! Juwon freaking Howard... Mchale should be stipped of his Celtic championships... freaking loser with ugly clothes and dumb expressions.

Arizona is where it's at... face it... Minnesota is sooo the 90's...

Sincerely,
Desert dweller former 'sotan
June 21, 2007 8:48 PM
 

Dummyte Cookerpecker said:

Arizona is filthy and filled with smelly, old people.

But hey, you got the weather!
June 22, 2007 4:13 PM
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